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Title: Spider-Man kicks Falcon (Captain America: Civil War)
Post by: Dutch on January 11, 2022, 09:10:50 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rZZPn82g8Q

Feat starts at 0:37.

The Falcon flies about a foot in eight frames. That's a speed of 3.125 mph.

Assuming he weighs, with his pack, about 0.06 kg, the energy delivered by Parker's kick is about 0.05855 joules.

Mouse level

Frankly, I think I messed up somewhere. Or else our levels are off by a couple hundredths of a joule, which is certainly possible.
Title: Thranos throws Cap through a rock
Post by: Dutch on May 11, 2021, 03:24:44 pm
https://gfycat.com/obesetatteredgalago

The rock is about as long and wide as Cap is tall. That's ~5 inches (12.7 cm). And it's maybe half as tall as him.
12.7 x 12.7 x 6.35 = 1024.1915
Pulverization value of rock is 214 J/cc (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations#Table_of_Destruction_Values).
1024.1915 x 214 = 219176.981 J
Wall level
Title: Captain America sends HYDRA trooper flying
Post by: Dutch on May 11, 2021, 03:15:06 pm
https://gfycat.com/adeptunpleasantandeancockoftherock

h = 0.1143 cm
d = 0.3429 cm (h x 3)
m = 0.045 kg

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.3429 = ~1.4819

PE = 0.5 x m x velocity˛
1.4819 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
1.4819 ÷ 0.0225 = ~65.8622
Velocity = 65.8622 m/s

0.5 x 0.045 x 65.8622 = ~1.4819
1.4819 x 1.4819 = ~2.196 joules.
Supermouse level
Title: Indominus rex swipes ACU troopers
Post by: Dutch on May 07, 2021, 03:29:56 pm
https://gfycat.com/limphighitalianbrownbear

h = 0.1143 cm
d = 0.2286 cm (h x 2)
m = 0.045 kg

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.2286 = ~0.988

PE = 0.5 x m x velocity˛
0.988 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
0.988 ÷ 0.0225 = ~43.911
Velocity = 43.911 m/s

0.5 x 0.045 x 43.911 = ~0.988
0.988 x 0.988 = ~0.976 joules.

0.976 J is Supermouse level.
Title: Aragorn decks Uruk
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:52:47 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11127/111273287/5926491-ezgif.com-video-to-gif%20%284%29.gif)
The Uruk falls about the same distance as Mando does here (https://rodentwarsnet.createaforum.com/database/punch-and-kick-energy-calcs/msg459/#msg459), so it's about the same. High-end Mouse level.
Title: Grievous punches Ahsoka
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:51:26 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5841416-ahsoka%20vs%20grievous%201.gif)
She flies about 1 foot—0.3048 meters. Ahsoka probably weighs maybe 0.038 kg.

0.038 x 9.8˛ x 0.3048 = 1.112373696. Let's round to 1.

1 = 0.5 x 0.038 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.038 = 0.019
1 ÷ 0.019 = 52.6315789474 (round to 52.6)
Velocity = 52.6 m/s

0.5 x 0.038 x 52.6 = 0.9994
0.9994 x 0.9994 = 0.99880036

About 0.999 J (Supermouse level).

Rating: 7/10
Title: Grievous punches Kenobi
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:50:26 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5841431-obi-wan%20vs%20grievous%206.gif)
7 in = ~0.18 m

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.18 = ~0.778

0.778 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
0.778 ÷ 0.0225 = ~34.578
Velocity = 34.578 m/s

0.5 x 0.045 x 34.578 = 0.778005
0.778005 x 0.778005 = ~0.605 joules

Rating: 7/10
Title: Grievous punches B1
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:49:29 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5900640-triggered%20grievous%202.gif)
The sheer strength (used for fragmentation) of "average" stainless steel is 358 j/cc (http://www.matweb.com/search/DataSheet.aspx?MatGUID=71396e57ff5940b791ece120e4d563e0). Grievous fragments about...
0.16 cm x 0.508 cm = 0.08128 cc

0.08128 cc x 358 j/cc = 29.09824 joules.

Rating: 6/10
Title: General Grievous kicks Obi-Wan Kenobi
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:48:53 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5841419-obi-wan%20vs%20grievous%204.gif)
Kenobi probably flies 2.5 feet, or 0.762 meters, through the air. I'll give him the usual mouse mass.

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.762 = 3.2932116 joules (I’ll round to 3.3)

3.3 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
3.3 ÷ 0.0225 = 146.666666667 (I’ll round to 146.7)
Velocity = 146.7 m/s

0.5 x 0.045 x 146.7 = 3.30075
3.30075 x 3.30075 = 10.8949505625

The energy of Grievous's kick is about 10.89 J.

Rating: 7/10
Title: Cara Dune punches Mando
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:48:05 pm
(https://media.notthebee.com/articles/article-60253407cdef3.gif)

h = 0.1143 cm
d = 0.05715 cm
m = 0.045 kg

First, find potential energy, or PE:
mass (0.045) x acceleration of gravity (9.8˛) x distance fallen (0.05715) = 0.24699087 joules (I’ll round to 0.25)

PE to velocity:
PE = 0.5 x m x velocity˛
0.25 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225. We know that the PE divided by 0.0225 will equal velocity, so:
0.25 ÷ 0.0225 = 11.1111111111 (I’ll round to 11)
Velocity = 11 m/s

Kinetic energy (KE) of the attack =  0.5 x mass x (velocity)˛
0.5 x 0.045 x 11 = 0.2475
0.2475 x 0.2475 = 0.06125625 joules.

The energy of the attack is 0.06125625 J. Let’s round that to 0.06 J.

Rating: 7/10
Title: Stoick beats up Drago
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:47:31 pm
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Dp3GRglyDZ4/VYb1g8QCOAI/AAAAAAAAFgA/KufpO_uO7Ps/s1600/Stoick%2Bpunches%2BDrago.gif)

Drago's weight = about 65g (0.065 kg)
10 m/s ÷ 0.2 sec = 50 m/s

0.065 x 50 = 3.25

Newtons to joules: 3.25 N x 0.0762 m = 0.24765 J, Supermouse level

3.25 Newtons is approximately 331g. However, this does not take into account the fact that Drago is probably pulling back from the blows, making it look as if Stoick is absurdly strong. Also, not all of Drago's body is recoiling that fast, just the head.

Rating: 5/10
Title: Re: Punch and kick energy calcs Grievous
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:46:23 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5841447-obi-wan%20vs%20grievous%208.gif)

Obi-Wan flies around 10 inches (0.254 m).

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.254 = ~1.098

1.098 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
1.098 ÷ 0.0225 = ~48.8
Velocity = 48.8 m/s

0.5 x 0.045 x 48.8 = 1.098
1.098 x 1.098 = ~1.21 J—Supermouse level.
Title: Obi-Wan breaks Opress' leg
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:45:50 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11126/111265303/4928038-valor%20kenobi%20breaks%20savages%20leg.gif)

Shear strength of bone is 51.6 MPa.[1][2]
Volume of bone: ~0.257 cc (0.25 in on each side)
MPa to J: MPa x volume = joules[3]

51.6 x 0.257 = 13.2612 J (Rat level)


[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone#Mechanical
[2]: Sheer strength is used for both fragmentation and cutting. https://simplicable.com/new/material-strength
[3]: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/References_for_Common_Feats#Breaking_all_the_Bones_of_a_Man.27s_Body
Title: Grievous kicks Ventress
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:44:46 pm
(https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11129/111293023/5842862-grievous%20vs%20ventress%208.gif)
Ventress probably weighs 0.04 kg and flies about 0.27 m.

0.04 x 9.8˛ x 0.27 = ~1.037

1.037 = 0.5 x 0.04 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.04 = 0.02
1.037 ÷ 0.02 = 51.85
Velocity = 51.85 m/s

0.5 x 0.04 x 51.85 = 1.037
1.037 x 1.037 = ~1.075 J—Supermouse level.

Rating: 7/10
Title: Bolg kicks Tauriel
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:44:10 pm
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SecondLegalDuckbillcat-size_restricted.gif)

Tauriel flies about 0.1016 meters this time.

0.04 x 9.8˛ x 0.1016 = ~0.39

0.39 = 0.5 x 0.04 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.04 = 0.02
0.39 ÷ 0.02 = 19.5
Velocity = 19.5 m/s

0.5 x 0.04 x 19.5 = 0.39
0.39 x 0.39 = 0.1521 J. Still Supermouse level.

Rating: 7/10
Title: Razorwhip cuts trees in half
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:43:28 pm
https://imgur.com/WwtDuv5


The trees
Windshear cuts through two trees, but in two different blows.

Shear strength of black ash wood: 5.25 J/cc (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Jasonsith/General_Destruction_Values_of_Wood#Table_of_Destruction_Values_-_Hard_Wood)
Density of black ash wood: 33 lb/ft3 (https://www.easycalculation.com/other/wood-density-chart.php), equivalent to (https://www.justintools.com/unit-conversion/density.php?k1=pounds-per-cubic-foot&k2=grams-per-cc) ~0.528 g/cc.
Diameter of the tree trunk: ~5.08 cm
Width of the cut: ~0.1 cm
Volume of the cut: 5.08 x 5.08 x 0.1 = ~2.59 cc

5.25 x 2.59 = 13.5975 J, Rat level

Rating: 5/10


I'm curious: would the trunks actually stay upright like that? Obviously, such a calculation would require lots of complicated things I don't understand, so I'll use a more basic model—how much energy would it take to throw the top half of the tree?

Tree's approximate weight: 5.08 x 5.08 x 1.3 x 0.528 = ~17.7 g.
Let's say that we have to throw the tree 0.15 m.

0.0177 x 9.8˛ x 0.15 = ~2.55

2.55 = 0.5 x 0.0177 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.0177 = 0.00885
2.55 ÷ 0.00885 = 288
Velocity = 288 m/s

0.5 x 0.0177 x 288 = ~2.55
2.55 x 2.55 = 6.5025 J. So yes, the trees would probably be knocked over, given how Windshear's tail seems to have plenty of extra energy, but perhaps it's just that sharp.

Rating: 6/10


The rocks
By sheer strength (traditional approach)
If half of the rock is pulverized and half is violently fragmented:
The violent fragmentation energy of rock is 69 J/cc (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calculations#Table_of_Destruction_Values)
The pulverization energy of rock is 214 J/cc.
69 x 2.5 = 172.5
214 x 2.5 = 535
172.5 + 535 = 707.5

Whew! That's Street level.

Rating: 7/10


By toughness
Fragmentation energy by toughness is 0.22 J/cc (https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-problem-with-destruction-values-we-use-staff-only.73631/).
0.22 x 5 = 1.1 J (Supermous level)

Rating: 7/10
Title: Ryker goes flying
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:42:47 pm
https://gfycat.com/positiveniceanemoneshrimp

Ryker gets hit by a dragon and flies about 1 meter. He probably weighs 50 grams.

0.05 x 9.8˛ x 1 = ~4.802

4.802 = 0.5 x 0.05 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.05 = 0.025
4.802 ÷ 0.025 = 192.08
Velocity = 192.08 m/s

0.5 x 0.05 x 192.08 = 4.802
4.802 x 4.802 = ~23.059 J, Rat level.

Rating: 7/10
Title: Anakin kicks Count Dooku
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:41:16 pm
[Gif no longer available.]

3 in = 0.0762 m

0.045 x 9.8˛ x 0.0762 = ~0.329
0.329 = 0.5 x 0.045 x velocity˛
0.5 x 0.045 = 0.0225
0.329 ÷ 0.0225 = ~14.623
0.5 x 0.045 x 14.623 = ~0.329
0.329 x 0.329 = ~0.108 joules

Supermouse level
Title: Punch and kick energy calcs
Post by: Dutch on May 06, 2021, 03:40:54 pm
For punch and kick energy calcs. Also includes tail swipes, headbutts, etc.